Parodying it is still addressing it and not in a particularly constructive way for an preadolescent. I'm not calling it a bad show (not my cup of tea) but it's not for 13 year olds, in my opinion.
FIXED THAT FOR YOU. LEGAL AGE DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE AN ADULT, STOP TRYING TO CRAM EVERY DEVELOPMENT STAGE IN A PERIOD OF A HANDFUL OF YEARS.
No I'm not worried about panty shots. I'm worried about her exposure to and learning to understand objectification of women. I take it you're not a parent. Care to call me some more names? :-)
I do not see me calling you names, but if you'd like just ask. As a parent it's your job to teach your children to understand things like that. Did you not teach her how it's wrong to lie and steal and hurt? Parenting doesn't stop by just mentioning the 10 commandments off-handedly you know.
FIXED THAT FOR YOU. LEGAL AGE DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE AN ADULT, STOP TRYING TO CRAM EVERY DEVELOPMENT STAGE IN A PERIOD OF A HANDFUL OF YEARS.
Uhh wow, little chip on your shoulder, there? I'm not even sure what you mean by this exactly. I mean, I understand the English words, just not how they fit in the context of this conversation.
Sure, it's my job, and that includes knowing when to expose her to what according to my estimation of when she's ready to fathom both the material and the meta that goes along with it.
Ten commandments? I'm not home schooling a Jesus freak, I'm raising a teenager in a blue state. You seem to have some baggage.
Uhh wow, little chip on your shoulder, there? I'm not even sure what you mean by this exactly. I mean, I understand the English words, just not how they fit in the context of this conversation.
Your 13-year old daughter is at best near the end of physical puberty but still very much a pre-adolescent. Give it a couple of years, she's barely started flirting with adolescence unless you did something weird.
Sure, it's my job, and that includes knowing when to expose her to what according to my estimation of when she's ready to fathom both the material and the meta that goes along with it.
And the problem is not the problem. The problem was that you were communicating that she's several years old than she really is, which causes problems in regards to the subject matter discussed since the ages are on opposite sides of whether it's time to discuss the subject matter or not.
Ten commandments? I'm not home schooling a Jesus freak, I'm raising a teenager in a blue state. You seem to have some baggage.
And you are new to these forums and stupidly oblivious to pretty much everything about them. Welcome.
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Sure, I'm a noob. I'm not sure how that makes me unable to have a conversation in English with other English speaking participants. How does forum meta affect a topic of conversation like Anime? You folks didn't invent Anime, did you?
Anyway, adolescent = 11-12, 13+ is teenager, in the parlance with which I'm familiar. I'm much more used to seeing adolescence in the "age" sense than the "biology" sense, but I see what you mean.
Since you seem to want to kill the discussion, and I *think* you're a mod, I guess that's my cue. It certainly wasn't my intention to be obnoxious.
Sure, I'm a noob. I'm not sure how that makes me unable to have a conversation in English with other English speaking participants. How does forum meta affect a topic of conversation like Anime? You folks didn't invent Anime, did you?
We did not invent anime, no. We do however have individual writing styles, which is surprisingly analogue to accents. You'd have a difficult time instantly understanding someone speaking English with a very heavy accent that you're unfamiliar with, no? Hell, the difference between British English and American English confounds some. Having a conversation means jack shit if you aren't actually communicating. You can respond to the guy with a heavy accent with something that you think is a correct answer to what he said, but it's very likely you'll just start having a back and forth of confusion, even though you both speak the same language.
Also, who the fuck taught you to write common nouns with capitalization? Your daughter? You don't write "movies" with capitalization, do you?
Anyway, adolescent = 11-12, 13+ is teenager, in the parlance with which I'm familiar. I'm much more used to seeing adolescence in the "age" sense than the "biology" sense, but I see what you mean.
JESUS FUCK WHAT NO THAT IS WRONG. Adolescent is roughly ALMOST ADULT, it's used to denote the stage between developing children and fully grown adults. It's the period where physical development clearly starts taking second place to psychological development. Teenager is a broad period, in part overlapping with adolescence but also pre-adolescence. In the strictest sense it even covers ages 10 through 19! Where I'm from we have a word to refer to kids that are currently in puberty that has no clear analogue besides 'puberty'. Adolescence only really starts at like 17 or 18 where I'm from, and goes on for some years into your twenties. The period where you are actually becoming an adult, because passing legal age does not magically make you an adult that understands and can deal with everything that an actual adult does.
There is also not really a "biology" sense with the word "adolescence". Puberty does, it's when your daughter starts growing tits and having periods and suffering from sudden overdoses of hormones.
Since you seem to want to kill the discussion, and I *think* you're a mod, I guess that's my cue. It certainly wasn't my intention to be obnoxious.
I wish, the fires would be so glorious. I can already see it before me, The Great Front Row Crew Forums Purge of Subjective Retardation, nobody would be save, The Ivory Tower blackened with soot and dried blood, fabulous flags of my victory draped over every square inch of everything. I would even have made sure to have as much surface area as possible to drape those flags over. You know how intestines get their surface area? Yeah, something like that with the victims.
Who me? A troll? I'm not sure how I got that label already, but to each their own.
No, Nine/ehcerpA. He's a notorious troll. I think Scrym banned him at one point.
I shall repeat for the new cattle. I'm not a troll. The forumites just kneejerked and kept calling me that when I did anything, even though I never trolled (I suck at trolling), thus the world troll lost any and all meaning here. It's a lie perpetuated ad infinitum for no discernible reason. I insult people. Directly and abrasively. That is anything but trolling. Insulting people directly would make a pathetic troll attempt.
I'd even go as far as to say that only one person on these forums ever trolled, or at least, acted in such a way as to be able and check off most of the things that make a troll. In hindsight it was a masterful troll if intended, and I posit that the number of people who caught it can be counted on a single hand, excluding the troll himself and I.
The word we used to use on the internet for people who'd aggressively start discussions is a flamer. Most flamers used to fuel the flames of complete faggotry though often leading to Godwin's Law being observed, and even stupidly mentioned repeatedly, within mere minutes depending on the speed of the thread. I just like to burn everything I can.
And yes, I have been banned. I have been banned more than once. Yet I am still here, amongst people who still adore me to some degree for some crazy reason. I blame the water.
I've never heard the word adolescence used in the way you're describing. Ever. In my life. And I read prolifically.
Odd. Have I slid into an alternate universe in my sleep? That shit does tend to happen.
Adolescence (from Latin: adolescere meaning "to grow up")[1] is a transitional stage of physical and psychological human development generally occurring between puberty and legal adulthood (age of majority).
The broadest definition covering most if not all cultural differences, overlaps almost completely with teenager. Either way, your mentioned definition is just flat out wrong and stupid, tying to age instead of actual development of the child. Late bloomers exist after all.
If I recall he merely attempted to troll, and wasn't all that good at it. Though that might have been in part his intention, though that wouldn't make him a troll still. If you think he aggressively stirred discussion you could call him a flamer.
I adhere to the "back in my day trolling meant something" philosophy. Actually trolling is not easy and doesn't get noticed that easily, let alone by the person/people being trolled.
"Forum asshole" is much more accurate.
That was my self-imposed title yeah, for a reason, it's stupidly easy to be an asshole.
Oh, I can see that once I get my bearings here, we're gonna throw down. It's inevitable.
I doubt it. For one, I do not throw down a gauntlet when it's smarter to just punch you with it. Secondly I am already occupied.
I'd have to sit and watch it again to be accurate and specific. From hazy memory I think there was at least strongly implied incest between siblings.
If you actually watched the show you would've known that's wrong. That act is to make money.
A note on Ouran: In Japan, it is published in "Hana to Yume" magazine, which is mainly geared at middle school/early teen girls, so by Japanese standards it is totally age appropriate. (If you are worried, Ribbon magazine is more oriented toward middle to late elementary school and is very clean, but Hana to Yume is generally super tame.) If she is a teenager and on the internet, I am sure she has seen worse than Kaoru and Hikaru pretending to make out to wind their classmates up. All the characters in the show pick a fandom trope and play it up on purpose to make money off of their classmates, including the twins. They only act like that for the attention.
I've noticed this poster for A Cat in Paris hanging at the Kew Gardens cinema for a week or so, and pretty much ignored it; but thanks to the Geekbite in this episode I'll be checking it out this weekend. It opens today.
Definitely Recommended. The dub is actually pretty good, and the side characters are actually hilarious, in my opinion. Also, the animation style is unique and appealing.
Wow, I came here looking for further discussion of Polar Bear Cafe. Lotsa flamey talk here.
No I'm not worried about panty shots. I'm worried about her exposure to and learning to understand objectification of women. I take it you're not a parent. Care to call me some more names? :-)
I didn't find Ouran to be particularly objectifying of women, in fact much less so than your typical American car commercial. It's a satire of harem shows, and it flips the convention, so actually it's the teenage guys who are sometimes objectified.
But yeah, there's also twincest, even if it's satirical. Every parent's got to make their own decisions about what to show their kid. In these internet days, though, our practical ability to restrict access to information/entertainment/images/etc is less powerful than it was when I was a kid. Even if parents have internet restrictions at home the kids may have friends with internet connected cell phones, they may go to public libraries without network nanny firewalls, they might get on the internet at a friend's house, etc. Whether this is good or bad is highly debatable, but it's nonetheless true. I do still think it's meaningful to set the limits (it's one of the ways that a parent expresses/communicates their values).
But back to Polar Bear Cafe . . . Constantine and I watched the first few episodes last night and loved it. I don't get the impression that they're ever going to change into human selves; I think they're just animals, and that's that (much like the animals in Executive Koala or Kalamari Wrestler). And strangely enough, for the first few episodes at least, the Panda remains the main character.
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Sure, it's my job, and that includes knowing when to expose her to what according to my estimation of when she's ready to fathom both the material and the meta that goes along with it.
Ten commandments? I'm not home schooling a Jesus freak, I'm raising a teenager in a blue state. You seem to have some baggage.
I dig the forum. There seems to be some intelligence here with only a low to moderate level of nonsense. That's hard to find.
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Anyway, adolescent = 11-12, 13+ is teenager, in the parlance with which I'm familiar. I'm much more used to seeing adolescence in the "age" sense than the "biology" sense, but I see what you mean.
Since you seem to want to kill the discussion, and I *think* you're a mod, I guess that's my cue. It certainly wasn't my intention to be obnoxious.
Also, who the fuck taught you to write common nouns with capitalization? Your daughter? You don't write "movies" with capitalization, do you? JESUS FUCK WHAT NO THAT IS WRONG. Adolescent is roughly ALMOST ADULT, it's used to denote the stage between developing children and fully grown adults. It's the period where physical development clearly starts taking second place to psychological development. Teenager is a broad period, in part overlapping with adolescence but also pre-adolescence. In the strictest sense it even covers ages 10 through 19! Where I'm from we have a word to refer to kids that are currently in puberty that has no clear analogue besides 'puberty'. Adolescence only really starts at like 17 or 18 where I'm from, and goes on for some years into your twenties. The period where you are actually becoming an adult, because passing legal age does not magically make you an adult that understands and can deal with everything that an actual adult does.
There is also not really a "biology" sense with the word "adolescence". Puberty does, it's when your daughter starts growing tits and having periods and suffering from sudden overdoses of hormones. I wish, the fires would be so glorious. I can already see it before me, The Great Front Row Crew Forums Purge of Subjective Retardation, nobody would be save, The Ivory Tower blackened with soot and dried blood, fabulous flags of my victory draped over every square inch of everything. I would even have made sure to have as much surface area as possible to drape those flags over. You know how intestines get their surface area? Yeah, something like that with the victims.
Odd. Have I slid into an alternate universe in my sleep? That shit does tend to happen.
I'd even go as far as to say that only one person on these forums ever trolled, or at least, acted in such a way as to be able and check off most of the things that make a troll. In hindsight it was a masterful troll if intended, and I posit that the number of people who caught it can be counted on a single hand, excluding the troll himself and I.
The word we used to use on the internet for people who'd aggressively start discussions is a flamer. Most flamers used to fuel the flames of complete faggotry though often leading to Godwin's Law being observed, and even stupidly mentioned repeatedly, within mere minutes depending on the speed of the thread. I just like to burn everything I can.
And yes, I have been banned. I have been banned more than once. Yet I am still here, amongst people who still adore me to some degree for some crazy reason. I blame the water.
I will not contest the notoriety claim though.
I adhere to the "back in my day trolling meant something" philosophy. Actually trolling is not easy and doesn't get noticed that easily, let alone by the person/people being trolled. That was my self-imposed title yeah, for a reason, it's stupidly easy to be an asshole. I doubt it. For one, I do not throw down a gauntlet when it's smarter to just punch you with it. Secondly I am already occupied.
But yeah, there's also twincest, even if it's satirical. Every parent's got to make their own decisions about what to show their kid. In these internet days, though, our practical ability to restrict access to information/entertainment/images/etc is less powerful than it was when I was a kid. Even if parents have internet restrictions at home the kids may have friends with internet connected cell phones, they may go to public libraries without network nanny firewalls, they might get on the internet at a friend's house, etc. Whether this is good or bad is highly debatable, but it's nonetheless true. I do still think it's meaningful to set the limits (it's one of the ways that a parent expresses/communicates their values).
But back to Polar Bear Cafe . . . Constantine and I watched the first few episodes last night and loved it. I don't get the impression that they're ever going to change into human selves; I think they're just animals, and that's that (much like the animals in Executive Koala or Kalamari Wrestler). And strangely enough, for the first few episodes at least, the Panda remains the main character.